Illegal Immigration

Build a fence? Keep open the borders? Amnesty again? Landmines?

Pretty obvious that we have a real problem...even those in favor of "amnesty" again for millions of "illegals", have to admit something has to change! What should our government do??

Personally, I think the initial Senate legislation is outrageous, and favor the House of Representatives' approach...secure the borders (fence, sensors, etc) and stop the flood of "illegals"...then work on enforcement and and overhaul of our laws and system. Real secure ID's and then enforcement measures against employers who knowingly employ "illegals" will take care of things better than a concept of catching and deporting millions...when people can't work illegally, they won't stay, then they leave us for Canada (Canada could use people!). They will be more welcome there, than here with us "intolerant yankee gringos"...

When I saw a few elements of the Senate Bill, I was floored...especially the measures to make "illegals" eligible for the "Earned Income Tax Credit" (EITC)...
a credit intended to reduce/or eliminate the tax burden on low-income American households. But the really disgusting Senate item is one which would give "illegals" credit for, and eligibilty to receive Social Security benefits for the money they have paid into Social Security (using stolen SSN's)...and essentially allow them to benefit from their "Identity Theft". These are cases in which "illegals" have fraudulently used American's SSN's to create ID's, work illegally, and in some cases, get mortgages, car loans, credit, etc...the theft and fraud of which causes hundreds of thousands of Americans credit damage, etc. We can call these the "Kennedy" provisions...he being the leading Senate force behind them.

Am I in the minority, being disgusted by these provisions? Should someone be rewarded for Identity Theft, credit fraud, Social Security and tax fraud??

The proponents argue, that hard working people who have contributed to the Social Security system, even illegally, should get to enjoy the benefits from a system they have contributed to. I think that is just an outrageous position, especially considering that they would then also be entitled to more benefits than they have ever contributed for (all Social Security tax-payers are)...rewarding people who are breaking our laws is a disgusting concept! The Kennedy's of the world want to be "fair" to those who knowingly break our laws and abuse our system, and damage the lives of honest Americans citizens!

Democrats AND Republicans who favor these types of measures, should all be tossed out on their asses!

Chavez or Ahmadinejad...battling for "Wacko #1" title

Which is the bigger, wacko nut job, the Iranian or the Venezuelan? Sometimes I miss the old days, when the CIA, or "sub-contractors" would have just taken care of these guys.

Oil War???

Does anyone remember all the original Bush "Oil War" critics? I remember seeing so many signs at Chicago protests a few years back, and the "talking heads" on TV (such as Eleanor Clifft) declaring the "Bush Oil War" was all about "cheap oil"...and they didn't mean oil was too cheap...and the "Bushies" were trying to drive it up!

How silly do those people look now? Now of course those same people are holding signs saying Bush's "Oil War" is all about driving up the price so his oil buddies can make record profits!

Why is it so hard to get some people to believe that in the long run our only real national interest and motive and terms of the Middle East, is some degree of lasting peace and security? It is certainly in our national interests (and economic one as well)...is that a sinister motive??? I certainly don't deny our greatest interest in the region is oil/energy...but I don't see why that is wrong.

Does anyone have pics of some of those protest signs for me???

DB

JibJab.com

jibjab always makes me laugh...and they do a reasonably good job of teasing both parties...everytime Hillary slaps Bill, I laugh my ass off. Hey lets face it Pres. Bush has problems with a few words (nuclear and terrorists, especially)...but that doesn't stop him from trying.

Can't say I think the first one is very fair to GW but it's clever and cute
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/123

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/69

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/originals/jibjab/movieid/66

Me

9/11 Conspiracy?

Each day that passes, more and more people, are given more and more exposure and expressing their firmly held belief in 9/11 having been an evil US Government conspiracy and cover-up.
I have even seen some polls indicating 20+% are saying their doubts or questions about 9/11 have them believing in a Conspiracy...I find this incredibly alarming, and think it is one more insidious issue leading to the divides in our country now.

Two of the most ridiculous theories are that:

The World Trade Center (WTC) towers didn't collapse because of the jets that struck each, and the ensuing fires, etc...But were instead brought down with high-explosives.

The Pentagon was not hit by a jet on 9/11, it was instead hit by a "cruise missile" (presumably one belonging to the US military).


I don't think we can truly unite this country, if so many people really believe these absurdities...
we need to fight this one out.

I know there will always be a small number of "we never really landed on the moon" types
but there is no way anyone can say 9/11 was filmed on a backlot in Hollywood...so I think we can prove this one was real, and not a grand conspiracy and cover-up.

It is time for the whackos to blog-it-out...this should be fun for those of us who know it was all real...

ChicagoDB

George Bush's War???

People are so angrily divided over the war in Iraq...and I wonder why. I am a 110% supporter
of our "Invasions" of both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Many opposed call it "George Bush's War"...I believe it was, and is "Our War"!
So much trouble seems to be brewing over all this, that I think we should have an all-out debate about it. Ready to fight? Make your arguement...and we will see if you can actually make your point!

I assume this fight will branch out into separate debates, as to which arguements, relationships, events and individuals have been proper...and what is fact, fiction, conspiracy, cover-up, etc.

We will fight those battles as they arise...and they will become their own threads...


ChicagoDB